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Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt

Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 06 September 2021 01:30 UTC

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To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>, "lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>
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From: Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt
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On the question of whether discussing compensation is an antitrust 
issue, I defer to the lawyers.

Yours,
Joel

On 9/5/2021 9:16 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 5, 2021 at 5:51 PM lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk 
> <mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk 
> <mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk>> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Frankly, from an engineer perspective, that sounds not so much
>     anti-trust, as anti-union.
> 
> 
> I do not agree with Lloyd on most things, afaik, but this is a good 
> point. My much more anodyne text would avoid this concern, fwiw.
> 
> thanks,
> Rob
>

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