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Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Tue, 06 April 2021 22:19 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2021 15:19:10 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org
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On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:13 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> >   * This proposal would make the general IETF list much more tightly
> moderated.
>
> I'd like to say: actively chaired, rather than managed by retroactive
> blame.
>

I want to second this comment from Brian. I think that that would go a long
way.

-Ekr

Regards
>     Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > Should we take steps to encourage more women and under-represented
> groups of people into leadership? Where and how do we discuss that
> question?  And then, if the consensus is yes, where and how do we discuss
> mechanisms to do so?  How do we discuss whether or not to hold an online
> meeting or a F2F one, and how do we keep the conversation from getting into
> the “US dominates” discussion? Is this list moderated? Who appoints the
> moderators? Where can we complain about the job the moderators are doing?
> Will we be allowed to speculate on the vaccine distribution when decided if
> November is F2F? Can we be constrained to do that without comparing
> societies?
> >
> >
> >
> >   * I don't think the IETF should host "ietf-discuss@ietf.org <mailto:
> ietf-discuss@ietf.org>" at all, but it seems I'm in the rough there.
> >
> >
> >
> > From what I have seen, your proposal is in the rough.  I just looked at
> the 44 messages in this thread; there were under a dozen people, and nobody
> supported you.  (Maybe, if you squint, you could claim Stephen does.)  I
> assume you have private email that was in favor.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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