Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-02.txt

I liked the positioning of the previous version, because it was
informative, but I disliked the fact that it was intended to be
a BCP for no good reason. I certainly had several issues with the
informative text that has now disappeared, but those all seemed
to be fixable.

I dislike this version because it is less informative, and
because it is *really* pointless to tell people that they have
to obey the law, especially if you don't help them to understand
what the law might be. For most IETF participants, this will just
be a click-through item, whereas they could read the previous
draft and learn something.

Is there a legal theory that this document saying "thou shalt
obey the law" protects the IETF itself? If so, that might be
a reason for proceeding. Otherwise, I'm not sure what value
it has.

Regards
    Brian Carpenter

On 08-Dec-21 03:10, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> After teh discussion at the IETF meeting, and after further discussion
> of the legal aspects, we have made a major revision to the document.  It
> is shorter, and more direct.
> 
> I presume some folks will dislike it even more, and some folks will find
> that it addresses their concerns.  Please speak up, so that we can
> decide if this time the chairs may be able to dispatch the draft.
> 
> Thank you,
> Joel (and Jay  and Brad)
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-02.txt
> Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2021 06:01:52 -0800
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
> 
> 
>           Title           : Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Particiants
>           Authors         : Joel M. Halpern
>                             Brad Biddle
>                             Jay Daley
> 	Filename        : draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-02.txt
> 	Pages           : 6
> 	Date            : 2021-12-07
> 
> Abstract:
>      This document specifies policy for IETF participants on compliance
>      with antitrust laws and how to reduce antitrust risks in connection
>      with IETF activities.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/
> 
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-02.html
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-02
> 
> 
> Internet-Drafts are also available by rsync at
> rsync.ietf.org::internet-drafts
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