Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.txt

Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 30 March 2023 11:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.txt
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There are some aspects of the AD review that I assume, and would like to 
see referenced.

One aspect is that when an AD has (or accepts from a reviewer) a 
concern, the AD needs to do enough work themselves to be able to engage 
effectively in discussion of that concern with fellow ADs and then (if 
there is still a concern) with the document shepherd / editors / WG.

The other aspect is somewhat more nuanced and subtle.  If ADs from other 
areas see an issue in the area for which an AD is responsible, one of 
the ADs for that area ought, I think, be prepared to engage in enough 
review to determine whether they share or disagree with the concern.  
Maybe part of this could be delegated, but it seems that it is the AD 
who needs to engage in the discussion.

Yours,

Joel

On 3/30/2023 4:41 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> FYI -- based on discussions this week, food for thought / bike 
> shedding / discussion.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> *Subject: **New Version Notification for 
>> draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.txt*
>> *Date: *30 March 2023 at 5:41:03 pm GMT+9
>> *To: *"Mark Nottingham" <mnot@mnot.net>
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Mark Nottingham and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload
>> Revision:00
>> Title:IESG Document Review Expectations: Impact on AD Workload
>> Document date:2023-03-30
>> Group:Individual Submission
>> Pages:7
>> URL: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.txt
>> Status: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload/
>> Html: 
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload-00.html
>> Htmlized: 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-nottingham-iesg-review-workload
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   Arguably, IETF Area Directors are overloaded with document review
>>   duties.  This document surveys the relevant background, discusses the
>>   implications, and makes a proposal for improvements.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The IETF Secretariat
>>
>>
>
> --
> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
>
>

[Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification for d… Mark Nottingham
Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Joel Halpern
Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Martin Thomson
Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Salz, Rich
Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Joel Halpern
Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: New Version Notification f… Adrian Farrel
Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Barry Leiba
Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Adrian Farrel
Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter