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Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Tue, 18 July 2023 01:30 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2023 11:29:55 +1000
Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>, "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-ecahc-moderation-00.txt
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> On 17 Jul 2023, at 10:42 pm, John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
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>>>    I don't think that's acceptable. We need moderators who can have near-real-time discussions with participants and chairs; otherwise, problematic behaviour won't be responded to promptly.
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> While I am sympathetic to this goal, I don't think it's realistic.  We have limited numbers of volunteers, particularly in the time zones when Mark and Brian are awake.

It's not realistic only if we're constrained to only using scarce, volunteer moderators. That's an artificial constraint; as others have pointed out, allowing chairs to continue to moderate is one way around it.

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