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As was discussed in the past, I believe this misses the point of the 
minutes.  I do not object to having the recordings and transcripts.  But 
those do not highlight the decisions and action points, which is the 
primary purpose of the minutes.

Yours,

Joel

On 10/7/2025 4:33 AM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> Greetings fellow gendispatchers,
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> Have you ever taken minutes for a WG? Have you ever been the chair
> desperately begging for someone to take minutes? Have you ever been
> the person sitting in the front row refusing to look the chair in the
> eye while they desperately tried to get someone to take minutes? It
> doesn't have to be that way.
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> For the past several years we have routinely made audio and video
> recordings of WG sessions, which also include transcriptions, thus
> providing a record of what happened in each WG session, and avoiding
> the need for manual transcription. To that end, my co-authors and I
> have published the following draft:
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> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/di.html
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> This draft recognizes the practice of using the automated transcript
> as a starting point for the minutes (with the chairs having the final
> approval, of course), and asks the IETF LLC to make a few small
> changes to the tools to facilitate that practice.
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> -Ekr
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