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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 06 April 2021 22:22 UTC

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To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 06/04/2021 23:19, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:13 PM Brian E Carpenter <
> brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>>    * This proposal would make the general IETF list much more tightly
>> moderated.
>>
>> I'd like to say: actively chaired, rather than managed by retroactive
>> blame.
>>
> 
> I want to second this comment from Brian. I think that that would go a long
> way.

Me too, though as before I dunno how the IETF chair/IESG will
manage to hoodwink some people into taking that on;-)

S.

> 
> -Ekr
> 
> Regards
>>      Brian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Should we take steps to encourage more women and under-represented
>> groups of people into leadership? Where and how do we discuss that
>> question?  And then, if the consensus is yes, where and how do we discuss
>> mechanisms to do so?  How do we discuss whether or not to hold an online
>> meeting or a F2F one, and how do we keep the conversation from getting into
>> the “US dominates” discussion? Is this list moderated? Who appoints the
>> moderators? Where can we complain about the job the moderators are doing?
>> Will we be allowed to speculate on the vaccine distribution when decided if
>> November is F2F? Can we be constrained to do that without comparing
>> societies?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    * I don't think the IETF should host "ietf-discuss@ietf.org <mailto:
>> ietf-discuss@ietf.org>" at all, but it seems I'm in the rough there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  From what I have seen, your proposal is in the rough.  I just looked at
>> the 44 messages in this thread; there were under a dozen people, and nobody
>> supported you.  (Maybe, if you squint, you could claim Stephen does.)  I
>> assume you have private email that was in favor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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