Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-ecahc-moderation-00.txt
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 19 July 2023 02:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-ecahc-moderation-00.txt
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On 19-Jul-23 14:21, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> On 19/07/2023 03:07, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>
>>> have the IETF Chair pick a team
>>
>> If that is a problem (which would imply a measure of distrust in the
>> Chair, who is picked by a community process and trusted in many other
>> ways), how do you think the team *should* be picked?
> Doesn't the draft say the team "consists of a small number
> of individuals"? I don't think that particular problem with
> the solution proposal is with trusting the chair or IESG but
> rather (for me) with the idea of that being a small team that
> covers all of the IETF. I think there are a bunch of issues
> with that, both pragmatic and in principle. Such a setup for
> the ombudsteam seems fine to me, but not for the far grayer
> area of disruption across all current and possible future
> forms of online interaction.
Yes, that's why my preference is that WG Chairs remain as the first
line of defence. Personally I have no idea of the current rate
of disruptive postings across the IETF as a whole, so it's very
hard to assess the scalability of a central team.
Brian
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Jari Arkko
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… John Levine