Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-ecahc-moderation-00.txt

[Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]>]

On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:35 PM Mark Nottingham <[e-mail]> wrote:

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> > On 17 Jul 2023, at 8:19 am, Eric Rescorla <[e-mail]> wrote:
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> >> 24x7 responsiveness. I think that’s probably something that comes from
> the types of [e-mail] mailing list and others with similar
> characteristics. I don’t think a typical WG mailing list has that need.
> >
> > This is my sense as well.
>
> Consider a problematic participant located in North America, a chair based
> in Australia, and a moderator based in Europe.
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> Problematic participant does something... problematic at the start of
> their day. Because chair is sleeping and has a job when they wake up, they
> can't get to noticing/handling the problem until their lunchtime, 10-12
> hours later. Chair notifies moderator, but they are asleep, and don't reply
> asking for a clarification until their midday, 9-10 hours later. Chair is
> asleep by then, so doesn't respond until 10-12 hours later, whereupon
> moderator (finally) contacts problematic person, who has now had two clear
> days to run amok in the WG.
>
> I don't think that's acceptable. We need moderators who can have
> near-real-time discussions with participants and chairs; otherwise,
> problematic behaviour won't be responded to promptly.
>

I don't feel strongly on this point, so if others think that it's
worthwhile having 24x7 that's fine by me.

With that said, it seems like we could probably also address this by having
the chairs continue to have their existing powers that they use in cases
like this.

-Ekr


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