Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-thomson-gendispatch-rfc-derivatives-00.txt
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Fri, 29 September 2023 07:24 UTC
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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 17:23:55 +1000
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-thomson-gendispatch-rfc-derivatives-00.txt
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Yes, there are powers in the world other than the IAB and IESG (thankfully). They are often used wisely; sometimes, they are not. Interestingly, none of them can yet affect the _entire_ Internet. > On 29 Sep 2023, at 5:21 pm, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote: > > > On 29.09.23 09:11, Martin Thomson wrote: >>> That sort of thing has happened in the past and been effective. If your prediction is that this will be less effective in the future, that's a bad outcome, but copyright won't be the thing that saves us. >>> >>> > The IAB and IESG do not have the power of injunctive relief. > Eliot > <OpenPGP_0x87B66B46D9D27A33.asc>-- > Gendispatch mailing list > Gendispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… John Scudder
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Martin Vigoureux
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for dr… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] [Ext] Re: New Version Notificat… David Huberman
- Re: [Gendispatch] [Ext] Re: New Version Notificat… Brian E Carpenter