Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draft-eggert-bcp45bis-04.txt
Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Thu, 09 September 2021 06:57 UTC
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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 23:56:57 -0700
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To: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draft-eggert-bcp45bis-04.txt
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I don't think it really matters. I am not aware of any successful appeal ever, so write whatever seems expedient, thanks, Rob On Wed, Sep 8, 2021 at 11:51 PM Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the suggestions. Please see > https://github.com/larseggert/bcp45bis/pull/6 for a PR that rolls those > in. > > On 2021-9-8, at 23:41, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote: > > Because an SAA serves at the discretion of the IETF Chair - even if > > the IETF Chair is not otherwise involved in the operation of the SAA > > team - any SAA decision could be appealed to the IAB. The IAB shall > > then review the situation and attempt to resolve it in a manner of > > its own choosing. > > > > Why are we varying from the normal appeal process here? One reason to > > keep the IETF Chair out of the operation is exactly so the first > > appeal *can* go to the IETF Chair, as it normally would. Then to the > > plenary IESG, and then to the IAB. I don't see a good reason to > > change that process. > > This was also brought up by Rob during his AD review. This text is based > on the current text in BCP45, which says: > > The IETF Chair, the IETF Executive Director, or a sergeant-at-arms > appointed by the Chair is empowered to restrict posting by a person, > or of a thread, when the content is inappropriate and represents a > pattern of abuse. They are encouraged to take into account the > overall nature of the postings by an individual and whether > particular postings are an aberration or typical. Complaints > ^^^^^^^^^^ > regarding their decisions should be referred to the IAB. > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > I assumed that "complaints" were supposed to be appeals, because otherwise > it's undefined what the IAB was supposed to do with these complaints. > > I'm fully OK with using the regular appeals process here, but since it > would be a change from the original BCP45 and the intent was to do a > minimal bis, I didn't make that change. > > Thanks, > Lars > > -- > Gendispatch mailing list > Gendispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch >
- [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draft-eg… internet-drafts
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Jay Daley
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Barry Leiba
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lloyd W
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Dan Harkins
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Keith Moore
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification - draf… Lars Eggert