Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Sun, 14 February 2021 05:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
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On 2/13/2021 8:45 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> On 13/2/21 21:23, Dan Harkins wrote:
>>
>> On 2/13/21 10:38 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>>> On 13/2/21 15:27, Dan Harkins wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>    step 1: stop using the words "master" and "slave"
>>>>    step 2: ???
>>>>    step 3: more diverse and inclusive IETF
>>>>
>>>> So anyone who can explain step 2 in sufficient detail to get from 
>>>> step 1 to
>>>> step 3 would probably be an authority on the matter.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't the first question be "where do you want to get?". And, if 
>>> the answer is "more diverse and inclusive IETF", then the group 
>>> should study what's the high-order bit to get there?
>>
>>    That seems to already be the answer. Have you heard anyone argue 
>> otherwise?
>
> Then my next question is: do people really think that what affects 
> diversity the most is language?
>
> (FWIW, I don't) 

Fernando, if you believe that something else should be treated with high 
priority, why don't you make a proposal to deal with that other problem? 
Write a statement, maybe a draft. Convince people, gain support, etc. 
Having a separate working group working on terminology does not prevent 
you from doing that.

-- Christian Huitema