Re: [Gendispatch] Academia (Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF)

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Fri, 26 February 2021 07:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Academia (Re: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF)
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Hi,

On 2021-2-25, at 23:21, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 26-Feb-21 06:29, Lars Eggert wrote:
>> One thing we did to increase the value of RFCs to academics was to assign them DOIs, which at least for universities in some geos is a prerequisite to even recognizing RFCs as academic output.
> 
> Nevertheless, it is in general hard to get RFCs recognised as valuable for tenure and promotion purposes, compared to more traditional publication streams such as highly-rated journals.

completely agreed. DOIs don't fully solve the problem, they are a first required step. Some tenure committees operate under rules that don't makes it difficult to consider evaluating something that doesn't have a DOI.

> That's one reason we did https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1672308.1672315 but I'm not sure it has had much impact.


Yes, that is an invaluable document when RFCs are able to be considered for evaluation.

Thanks,
Lars