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Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?

Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 04 September 2023 01:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
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I think forcing tombstones would be a very good idea.  Deciding when to 
do so may be more than a little interesting.

Yours,

Joel

On 9/3/2023 9:06 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
> Hiya,
>
> On 04/09/2023 01:23, Martin Thomson wrote:
>
>> Paul and I just submitted
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-01 
>>
>>
>>  We've talked about this in the past.  This version contains a
>> suggested response to the criticism that the last version received.
>
> The draft seems fine to me. I'd suggest adding a
> recommendation that it'd be useful to publish a
> tombstone version for drafts that are no longer
> under consideration (at that point in time) as I
> do think we have a small problem with drafts that
> are going nowhere, but that not being visible to
> readers. Not a big deal, but could be worthwhile,
>
> Cheers,
> S.
>
>

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