Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Tue, 06 April 2021 20:54 UTC

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On 06/04/2021 21:45, Salz, Rich wrote:
> From what I have seen, your proposal is in the rough.  I just looked
> at the 44 messages in this thread; there were under a dozen people,
> and nobody supported you.  (Maybe, if you squint, you could claim
> Stephen does.)
Eh? I think I said it was an awful idea. It still is IMO:-)

S.