Re: [Gendispatch] another possibly problematic word

I haven't lived in the UK for over 10 years but when I was there this was not archaic but was sort of regional (London and surrounding area + criminal culture such as prisons, gritty TV shows) and common parlance in that context.  I was surprised when I discovered the security usage in my 20s but I’ve never considered there to be much chance of confusion between the two communities that use the word differently.

Jay

> On 9/09/2020, at 12:40 AM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
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> On 08/09/2020 12:38, Salz, Rich wrote:
>> This was news to me.  FYI
> 
> I believe it's archaic slang, that wasn't ever very common
> and perhaps only commonly used before the 1960's but that's
> just my impression from general reading and listening and
> could well vary from place to place, and time to time, the
> word being slang.
> 
> I'm currently unconvinced by that one tbh. And not that
> convinced that curated lists of dodgy words is a good way
> to handle this. (*)
> 
> S.
> 
> (*) That may be due to also originating from a place where
> censorship was still somewhat common in my youth - in our
> case the censors were mainly interested in religion and
> maintaining their ideas of the good bits of the social
> status quo. One of their last gasps was banning "the life
> of Brian" movie;-)
> 
>> 
>> From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> … A
>> separate issue that we may want to consider relates to use of the
>> word/term “nonce”.  In British English this term is slang for a
>> paedophile,
>> https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/nonce<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dictionary.cambridge.org_dictionary_english_nonce&d=DwMGaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=4LM0GbR0h9Fvx86FtsKI-w&m=h3vPGHnErcFST8UylIdbLohcl4jQGcLXlgr6I_5jpwk&s=4NlmGbVCeTGF1CWzghVwoa1yDT9sIiWHbnji9xdIlzE&e=>
>> 
>> I’m not saying that we should necessarily change this, but we might
>> want to consider whether there is an alternative equivalent term that
>> could be used instead. …
>> 
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