Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG

Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com> Sun, 14 February 2021 21:32 UTC

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From: Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
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On 14/2/21 17:54, Jay Daley wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 15/02/2021, at 9:46 AM, Fernando Gont <fgont@si6networks.com 
>> <mailto:fgont@si6networks.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Jay,
>>
>> On 14/2/21 17:24, Jay Daley wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Having wealthy, credentialed, white people take the issue of 
>>> diversity and inclusivity seriously enough
>>
>> Indeed, this is what I am *asking* the IETF to do.
>>
>> But this *is not* what is being done.
> 
> You selectively edited my message to remove "to try to explicitly and 
> publicly change their behaviours". 

That doesn't change my comment in any way: the behaviors include all the 
structural issues that cause a lot of people and communities to be 
excluded from participating.



> By seeking to block people who wish 
> to explore a possible path you are doing quite the opposite.

Actually, I think no path is being explored to really address the 
problem. -- that's indeed wre I'm coming from.

And either I not expressed my point of view or intention well, of you 
misunderstood it. But this one summarized it well enough:

* 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/mdvNlkBh4A_3_eOGKKFqM6oqvXA/

(I just realized that the other one was thinking of was sent off-list, 
to a subset of people)


Not sure why you assume I intend to block anything....

Thanks,
-- 
Fernando Gont
SI6 Networks
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