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Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt

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On 23/10/2022 21:03, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Really that's all this draft tells us.

I disagree. IMO the draft overeggs competition law
considerations to the point where they could inhibit
commentary by people with nothing whatsoever to fear
in that space.

S.

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