Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 06 April 2021 20:45 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
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  *   ietf@ietf.org<mailto:ietf@ietf.org>:

  *    - “Discussion of technical issues that are candidates for IETF work, but do not yet have an appropriate e-mail venue”

  *   - “Questions and clarifications concerning IETF meetings”

  *   - “Discussion of IETF administrative policies”

  *   This proposal would make the general IETF list much more tightly moderated.

Should we take steps to encourage more women and under-represented groups of people into leadership? Where and how do we discuss that question?  And then, if the consensus is yes, where and how do we discuss mechanisms to do so?  How do we discuss whether or not to hold an online meeting or a F2F one, and how do we keep the conversation from getting into the “US dominates” discussion? Is this list moderated? Who appoints the moderators? Where can we complain about the job the moderators are doing? Will we be allowed to speculate on the vaccine distribution when decided if November is F2F? Can we be constrained to do that without comparing societies?


  *   I don't think the IETF should host "ietf-discuss@ietf.org<mailto:ietf-discuss@ietf.org>" at all, but it seems I'm in the rough there.

From what I have seen, your proposal is in the rough.  I just looked at the 44 messages in this thread; there were under a dozen people, and nobody supported you.  (Maybe, if you squint, you could claim Stephen does.)  I assume you have private email that was in favor.