Re: [Gendispatch] Meetings summary

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 16 October 2020 13:38 UTC

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Bron,


> On 16 Oct 2020, at 15:02, Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> wrote:
> 
> Oh I'm glad I missed this the other day in my "jetlag" induced stupor (I've been attending CalConnect virtual conference from 2-6am Melbourne time this week), so I didn't get dragged in at the time.
> 
> I was very disappointed that the key question that I think needs to be answered by the community, and particular by those who favour draft-knodel, didn't have time for proper discussion at the last gendispatch meeting.
> 
> Does the IETF have confess to some "sins"?

With regard to language, it seems good to recognize that there are phrases that we should avoid.  But I don’t know if that is the same as a confession, or that we have to beat our backs on one to address language.

> 
> I believe this is the core issue underlying much of the disagreement.  I feel that there's not consensus on whether we have something to apologise for.
> 
> There's also a sub issue hidden under that, which is this question:
> 
> Is the IETF systemically racist?


Is that the effort or is the effort to correct language?  The above question seems to me a great opportunity to rathole forever.

Eliot