[Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF mailing lists
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Subject: [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF mailing lists
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It appears that Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> said: >What I suggest is that, if once we agree on what kinds of actions would be >tolerable, that we come back to whether or not the policy is worthwhile. >(It might be that we do not come to any such agreement) Does anyone have any idea how many messages there are in the archives that have web bugs? I think I understand how I could do it, but it seems like a lot of work for minimal benefit. Messages from commercial bulk mailers are full of web bugs, but I don't think I've ever seen one on an IETF list. R's, John
- [Gendispatch] url/web-trackers and IETF mailing l… Michael Richardson
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… Jay Daley
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… John Levine
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: web bugs vs security wrappers, … John Levine
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… S Moonesamy
- [Gendispatch] Re: url/web-trackers and IETF maili… Salz, Rich