Re: [Geopriv] The 's' in HELD

Tim Thome <tthome@kyocera-wireless.com> Mon, 05 May 2008 13:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Geopriv] The 's' in HELD
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Richard raises a good point, as devices may have requirements for 
emergency contexts... including support for devices that do not have a 
business relationship with the network access and/or service provider.

Should this context be handled separately?

Thanks!

Tim

Richard Barnes wrote:
> Is TLS really used for every HELD transaction, as opposed to being 
> available for every transaction?  This seems to be a deviation from the 
> normal pattern for Internet protocols to have a base protocol without 
> TLS and an (mandatory) option to use TLS as desired.  More importantly, 
> it seems like TLS might be undesirable in some circumstances, e.g., 
> emergency calling.
>
> Is there a reason for this extra-strong requirement?
>
> --RB
>
>
>
> Thomson, Martin wrote:
>   
>> I missed this in the changes for -06.  Please forgive my ignorance, but
>> I wasn't there at -71 and it appears that only the conclusion was
>> captured, not the rationale.  The minutes focus on whether there should
>> be a URI scheme or not, but make what seems (to me) to be a logical
>> leap:
>>
>>           Question: Does this HELD: scheme require TLS? Ans: Yes. Then
>> it needs
>>           to be a HELDS: scheme.
>>
>> I don't believe that the letter 's' addresses "concerns over referential
>> integrity" as stated by the held-06 change-log.  So can anyone justify
>> the above statement?  Is there some IETF guideline I don't know of that
>> states that URI schemes for protocols that use TLS have an extra 's'? 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Martin 
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Tim Thome - <mailto:tthome@kyocera-wireless.com>
Senior Staff Engineer
Technology Development
Kyocera Wireless Corp.
San Diego, CA

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