Re: [GGIE] [EXTERNAL] Re: Draft charter Re: Notes and presentations -- VIG at IETF 104

On Apr 27, 2019, at 11:16 PM, Roni Even (A) <roni.even@huawei.com<mailto:roni.even@huawei.com>> wrote:

Hi Leslie,
Thanks for drafting this proposed charter.

I have a general question , are we talking about media technology or media delivery or maybe media delivery technology?

I had some trouble parsing the following sentence “and media technology industry technology developments”   should it be “” and media delivery industry technologies developments”

My thinking is that it is media technology which includes protocols used in the capture and edit and packaging workflows as well as delivery.

For one example, there are the network pieces used to capture and transport live cameras in a stadium and then transport the video to a facility for live editing and then encoding for distribution and finally the transport of the newly encoded video to CDN caches for delivery.   That’s all network stuff that happens before the player connects to a CDN cache.

This wholistic view is important as the video requirements on the various network pieces that are involved in the transport tasks come out when the tasks are viewed together.

Glenn

Glenn

Roni Even

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Subject: [GGIE] Draft charter Re: Notes and presentations -- VIG at IETF 104

Hiya,

The short answer is, no, we’ve heard nothing from the ADs since we had discussions in Prague. I am following up with them.

In the meantime, here’s the draft charter, following our discussion in the VIG Whither session in Prague.

Media OPS (MOPS) WG

The Media OPS Working Group is a forum for coordinating the deployment, engineering, and operation of media streaming and manipulation protocols and procedures in the global Internet, inter-domain and single domain. In this case, media is considered to include the transport of video, audio, objects and any combination thereof, possibly non-sequentially. The scope is media and media protocols’ interactions with the network, but not the technology of control protocols or media formats.
 This activity will include, but not be limited to:
– Document deployment operational gaps for video in the global Internet, including last mile issues
– Receive regular reports on the current state of the deployment of media technology, and media technology industry technology developments
– Create "practice and experience" documents that capture the experience of those who have deployed and are deploying various media technologies.
– Based on reports and other information, provide feedback to other relevant working groups.
– Develop mechanisms and procedures for sharing operational information to aid in operation of media technologies in the global Internet
– Develop tools, extend protocols and provide operational and implementation advice that assists in media technology administration, diagnostics, troubleshooting and deployment between/within native and  non-native environments.
– This working group may develop requirements and assist in review and feedback of documents in other working groups responsible for such protocols.

Thoughts welcome.

Leslie.

On 22 Apr 2019, at 20:25, Holland, Jake wrote:

Hi Leslie,

Thanks for putting this together.

I was wondering whether there was any update yet on the draft charter for the media ops wg we discussed in Prague?  Or any other discussions that have been happening on that front?

Thanks and regards,

Jake

From: Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com<mailto:ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>>
Date: 2019-04-02 at 14:13
To: "ggie@ietf.org<mailto:ggie@ietf.org>" <ggie@ietf.org<mailto:ggie@ietf.org>>
Subject: [GGIE] Notes and presentations -- VIG at IETF 104

Hi,

Thanks to those who were able to come out and participate in last week’s Video Interest Group meetings at IETF 104!

Thumbnail re-cap — there’s clear interest in some kind of formalization of the activity at the IETF; people who’ve been following along have been leaning towards an OPS area WG. We’ll see what the ADs decide.

In the meantime, you can find notes from our VIG meeting here:

https://yana.techark.org/20190327-video-interest-group-final/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__yana.techark.org_20190327-2Dvideo-2Dinterest-2Dgroup-2Dfinal_&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=bqnFROivDo_4iF8Z3R4DyNWKbbMeXr0LOgLnElT1Ook&m=yzWM1kLYys21AFp28yhilNkVnuSOEkIc1hkzo5irzbE&s=7p-fG6ZisgqfPfiO7tWe9XUh3PXAHXZ2qTM3uxZljwo&e=>

And presentations from Jake Holland, Sanjay Mishra and Marc Cymontkowski here:

https://yana.techark.org/vig-at-ietf/vig-at-ietf-104-presentations/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__yana.techark.org_vig-2Dat-2Dietf_vig-2Dat-2Dietf-2D104-2Dpresentations_&d=DwMFaQ&c=96ZbZZcaMF4w0F4jpN6LZg&r=bqnFROivDo_4iF8Z3R4DyNWKbbMeXr0LOgLnElT1Ook&m=yzWM1kLYys21AFp28yhilNkVnuSOEkIc1hkzo5irzbE&s=Xz5n4CSyPXoCvqT11ieXiUeCrQf9DDw0rPC-lulpGQ4&e=>

(I was going to attach them, but they aren’t all small).

Leslie.

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