[GGIE] Requested! Re: Proposing an actual BoF for IETF 105 in Montreal, looking for volunteers and suggestions
"Leslie Daigle" <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com> Fri, 07 June 2019 13:16 UTC
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Subject: [GGIE] Requested! Re: Proposing an actual BoF for IETF 105 in Montreal, looking for volunteers and suggestions
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Thanks, all, for the discussion and suggestions. I updated the bof request, based on that, and have submitted it. You can see it on the BoF request wiki (https://trac.tools.ietf.org/bof/trac/) and I’ve pasted it below for easy reference. Here’s hoping we meet in Montreal! Leslie. MOPS Media OPerationS (MOPS) Description: The purpose of this BoF is to highlight the many existing video activities that are leveraging IETF protocol work, identify gaps in IETF work and/or areas of incompatibility with video technology development efforts being carried out elsewhere, and identify a core group of IETF participants working on video activities across the IETF’s technology areas. Internet- and Internet-protocol-delivered video/media is popular, leading to significant technology development across industries not traditionally thought of as Internet technology developers or operators, as well as considerable quantities of traffic on local and transit networks. Continued development of Internet-using technologies should be properly coordinated in order to ensure that the existing technologies are well-utilized, and new ones are developed in sympathy with the Internet’s core protocols and design. Some concrete areas for IETF interest could include: Requirements for maximizing interoperability of video technologies Operational practices for improving quality for any network conditions Operational practices for making the best use of available infrastructure Identifying other challenges in operations: isolating performance, reachability, and interoperation issues Additionally, networking-related issues driven by media delivery (particularly the scaling issues and the real-time requirements, where those are a factor) need to be examined in detail, especially considering various proposed solutions in the IETF context, with access to and comments from networking experts and network operators. As a concrete example, the open caching working group within the Streaming Video Alliance relied on CDNI RFCs and extended those RFCs to account for use case extension however, there are areas such as interoperability where the IETF publications do not provide detailed guidance or clarify issues associated with HTTP redirections and how they should be handled by HAS video players. These “operational” issues would have a better chance of being examined in MOPS and specifications can be developed. This BoF and proposed WG have been discussed on the ggie@ietf.org mailing list, where there have been several expressions of support for the discussion and potential work. The archive is available here: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ggie/ Status: WG Forming Responsible AD: Warren Kumari and Éric Vyncke BoF proponents: Leslie Daigle <ldaigle@thinkingcat.com>, Glenn Deen <glenn.deen@nbcuni.com> BoF chairs: Leslie Daigle and Glenn Deen Number of people expected to attend: 40 Length of session (1, 1.5, 2, or 2.5 hours): 2 hours Conflicts to avoid (whole Areas and/or WGs): QUIC, CDNI, MBONED Agenda 0/ Agenda bash 1/ Scope of video on the Internet Jake Holland — I-D forthcoming 2/ Video using IETF technologies Sanjay Mishra — OpenCaching? update (Streaming Video Alliance work) <others pending> 3/ Scoping discussion for possible onward IETF work Discussion of IETF-specific work Identification of concrete work items: E.g., A roadmap document about the various video-related and video-delivery-related standards Solicit volunteers — for work items, onward discussion [Review of draft WG charter] 4/ AOB On 29 May 2019, at 14:01, Leslie Daigle wrote: > Hi, > > We’ve been working with Éric to see about having a “Media OPS” > bof in Montreal, and I’ve copied a draft agenda/proposal framework, > below. Comments welcome. > > As the BoF request deadline is approaching, I’d like to get some > firm commits on concrete contributions (I-Ds are ideal; presentations > are possible). If you have a contribution you’d like to share in > the agenda, please let me know; if you’ve already heard from me with > a request, I’ll be following up :^) . > > > > > > Media OPerationS (MOPS) BoF > Area: OPS > Chairs: Leslie Daigle (ldaigle@thinkingcat.com), Glenn Deen > (glenn.deen@nbcuni.com) > > Agenda > > 0/ Agenda bash > > 1/ Scope of video on the Internet > <contributions solicited> > > 2/ Video using IETF technologies > <contributions solicited; I was thinking that LURK and OpenCache might > fit well here, again> > > > 3/ Open questions for IETF and video > > > AOB > > Full description of BoF: > > Internet- and Internet-protocol-delivered video/media is popular, > leading to significant technology development across industries not > traditionally thought of as Internet technology developers or > operators, as well as considerable quantities of traffic on local and > transit networks. Continued development of Internet-using technologies > should be properly coordinated in order to ensure that the existing > technologies are well-utilized, and new ones are developed in sympathy > with the Internet’s core protocols and design. > > The purpose of this BoF is to highlight the many existing video > activities that are leveraging IETF protocol work, identify gaps in > IETF work and/or areas of incompatibility with video technology > development efforts being carried out elsewhere, and identify a core > group of IETF participants working on video activities across the > IETF’s technology areas. > > > > Conflicts to avoid: ??? > > Expected attendance: 40 > > Length of session: 90min > > Leslie. > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Leslie Daigle > Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises > ldaigle@thinkingcat.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ > GGIE mailing list > GGIE@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ggie -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises ldaigle@thinkingcat.com -------------------------------------------------------------------
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