Re: [grobj] Referrals problem statement at IETF 79

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

Shane,

On 2010-11-10 02:41, Shane Amante wrote:
> Hi Brian,
> 
> On 11/9/2010 3:07 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> I presented the draft Problem Statement for Referral
>> <draft-carpenter-referral-ps-01.txt>  by myself, Sheng Jiang, and
>> Bo Zhou (departing author) and Zhen Cao (new author, ChinaMobile),
>> three times: in the two open meetings for the Applications and
>> Transport Areas, and in the Name Based Sockets (NBS) BOF.
>>
>> There was significant interest and feedback in the APPAREA meeting,
>> with comments that we had identified an important problem but perhaps
>> not the correct direction for a solution. There was feedback that
>> applications people also want a solution to the path selection problem
>> (in other words, the network layer should fix the mess it's made over
>> the last 15 years with NATs and two versions of IP).
> 
> I wasn't able to attend your presentation in APPAREA, (but, did it at
> other IETF's and the NBS BoF this time around).  Can you elaborate a bit
> more on "want a solution to the path selection problem"?  Specifically,
> are the APPAREA folks aware of or concerned about source & destination
> address selection in IPv6 as per RFC 3484, or
> draft-ietf-6man-rfc3484-revise-01?  Or, something (much) more complicated?

I think "something more complicated" is the answer, which is where I
see a relationship with NBS, the "happy eyeballs" draft
(draft-wing-v6ops-happy-eyeballs-ipv6-01), and with
draft-baker-v6ops-session-start-time-02.

Of course we must fix RFC3484 anyway.

Anyway, I have sent a reminder of the existence of the GROBJ list to
the APP and TSV area lists and to the NBS BOF list. I hope those
interested will join us here.