Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st 2021)
Paolo Lucente <paolo@ntt.net> Mon, 13 December 2021 23:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (ends December 1st
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Hi Jeff, Ack & yet again all agreed. I will add such a section to the draft. Paolo On 8/12/21 13:22, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 11:57:08AM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >> A final meta comment that probably belongs in an Error Handling section: >> For a route monitoring message, the new TLVs follow an encoded BGP Update >> message. BGP isn't a rigorous TLV protocol, as we know. And certainly, a >> BMP implementation MUST know how to decode a BGP PDU in order to do its >> work. > > This also knocked loose an interesting issue that we don't have to worry > about for the short term but is applicable here: > > RFC 8654 provides for an extended message length for BGP. > > In pathological circumstances, an implementation with extended message > support being encapsulated in a BMP PDU might not be able to fit. This is > already a theoretical problem without the optional TLVs, but might become > more of one with the TLVs. > > It might be worth one sentence of mention in Error Handling if such a > section is created. "RFC 8654 permits BGP Updates and other messages to > grow to a length of 65535 octets. This may cause a BMP PDU that attempts to > encapsulate such long messages to overflow." > > > > > -- Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > GROW mailing list > GROW@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/grow
- [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Job Snijders
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Thomas.Graf
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Job Snijders
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Matthias.Arnold
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Zhuangshunwan
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Jared Mauch
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Chenshuanglong
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Aijun Wang
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… 刘毅松
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… duzongpeng@foxmail.com
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Ben Maddison
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Ben Maddison
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Jeffrey Haas
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Job Snijders
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente
- Re: [GROW] On LC for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-tlv (end… Paolo Lucente