RE: [GSMP] RE: GSMP WG Status

"Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com> Fri, 12 December 2003 00:10 UTC

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From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen@lucent.com>
To: Wataru Imajuku <imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp>, gsmp <gsmp@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: [GSMP] RE: GSMP WG Status
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:09:04 +0100
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And can you tell me when was the last time that you contributed anyting to
GSMP WG? I see no email postings from you to the WG list since mid-2002

You may be a new member who will now be posting great review comments
in the next few days. In that case I appologize for the above.

Thanks,
Bert 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wataru Imajuku [mailto:imajuku.wataru@lab.ntt.co.jp]
> Sent: vrijdag 12 december 2003 1:02
> To: gsmp
> Subject: [GSMP] RE: GSMP WG Status
> 
> 
> Hi, All
> 
>   I also strongly disagree with closing this WG.
> 
>   I think current  GSMP specifications lacks management feature of
> switching hardwares, especially, if you think adaptation of GSMP to
>   legacy-switches such as SDH-XC.
> 
>   Still, we have lot of work to do.
> 
> W. Imajuku@NTT
> 
> >>GSMP WG members,
> >>
> >>I think this WG should be closed:
> >
> >As you and state below, I strongly disagree.
> >
> >>
> >>- The below message was posted to this WG list Nov 9th.
> >>- We are now 1 month further, I have seen virtually NO 
> reaction to it
> >>- Alex and I have spoken with WG chairs at IETF with the implied
> >>   message that I am ready to shut down the WG.
> >>- Your WG chairs defended VERY SERIOUS why the WG should continue
> >>   and that WG pariticipation would IMPROVE imminently (such was
> >>   promised back in the Vienna IETF also).
> >
> >And there was improvement after Vienna, just not as much as 
> you wanted.
> >There has been traffic on the list, and just becasue it was 
> about GRMP is 
> >no reason to discount the conversation.
> >
> >>- But I do not see any of that happening.
> >>- I do see that Avri delivered on the revision of the base spec
> >>   (albeit with a note that yet more changes are needed)
> >
> >The guarantee was that the next rev would go out with the 
> layer changes 
> >included.  not that the document would be finished in November.
> >
> >>- It cause two comments, but basically resulted in discussion of
> >>   GRMP.
> >>- Other authors have not lived up to any promises
> >
> >The other document which is promised in promised for 
> December,.  It is 
> >early to say that promise has not been lived up to.
> >
> >>- I see no volunteering for the docs that have no editor/author.
> >
> >There have been volunteers and the co-chairs are in the process of 
> >working out specifics.
> >
> >>
> >>I will be speaking with rest of IESG to close the WG.
> >>I cannot support the claim that this WG is actually a Working Group.
> >
> >I think you are acting prematurely and I do not support your 
> your claim 
> >that it is not a working group.  there are small groups and 
> there are big 
> >groups.  there are quiet groups and there are noisy groups.  
> the work is 
> >progressing.
> >
> >I am at least one voice in the working group who thinks that 
> closing the 
> >group is wrong.  I hope there are other.
> >
> >And I hope that they speak up.
> >
> >Best Regards,
> >
> >a.
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> I have changed E-mail address from April 1/2003!!!!
> ---------------------------------------------
> Wataru Imajuku
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