Re: [hackathon] apologies

Alexandre PETRESCU <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> Thu, 18 March 2021 08:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hackathon] apologies
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Tom,

I want to apologize.

I am sorry to hear the sad news.  Please accept sincere regrets from my 
side.

These worldly chores will certainly be eased by the help of 
administrators, as they wrote by email.

Sorry, again,

Yours,

--
Alexandre Petrescu
alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, tél 0169089223

PS: if it is of any explanation I want to say that my email was not intended to be ironic,
even less to hurt.  It was more like a feature suggestion to MUA developpers to help people
to have an easier interactions with computers.

Le 17/03/2021 à 23:24, ietf@augustcellars.com a écrit :
> Alex,
>
> Perhaps you could be a little kinder.  My brother was in the IETF.  He passed away last October.  I am left to clean up his estate.  I have no idea of any of his user names or passwords.  The system would like me to enter those things in order to unsubscribe him.  While I have routed all emails to my desk.  I am just trying to inform people that he is dead.  And that somebody who is in charge of the discussions might want to know that and then edit the list.
>
> Tom Schaad
> August Cellars
> tom@augustcellars.com
> 503.554.6766 x102 desk
> 503.789.7404 cell
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: hackathon <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Alexandre PETRESCU
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 8:50 AM
> To: Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org>rg>; JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@dmarc.ietf.org>rg>; hackathon@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [hackathon] I would like to unsubscribe
>
>
> Le 17/03/2021 à 15:18, Marc Petit-Huguenin a écrit :
>> In any case, it baffles me that people are thinking that sending an
>> "unsubscribe" email to everyone in a mailing-list will somehow help
>> them resolve their problem.
>>
>> One click on the bottom of each email they no longer want to receive
>> brings a web page that contains the email alias of the owners of this
>> list.  How people cannot see that as a better target to their
>> complaints than annoying *everyone*?
> Maybe one needs a button titled "Unsubscribe" in the MUA (Mail User
> Agent) and not in the message, because current security advisory often tells to not click on this or that button in the email.
>
> In Thunderbird MUA I already have buttons called "Reply to list", "Reply to all", "Reply".
>
> Alex
>
>> On 3/17/21 7:08 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>>> Often this happens because you have an alias to the email, or it is
>>> being forwarded from another email account, etc. If you look to the
>>> email header from the list, you will find what email is in the list,
>>> or you can just use the mailman to find "yourself" in the list of
>>> subscribers.
>>>
>>> El 17/3/21 15:05, "hackathon en nombre de Borchert, Oliver (Fed)"
>>>   <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de
>>> oliver.borchert=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org> escribió:
>>>
>>> Interestingly, I did unsubscribe and that did not work. Then I
>>> received an email that I was manually unsubscribed which seemed not
>>> to have worked wither, I still get the messages.
>>>
>>> I believe there must be something wrong with the mailer program.
>>>
>>> Oliver
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------- Oliver Borchert,
>>> Computer Scientist National Institute of Standards and Technology
>>> (Office) +1.301.975.4856 (GVoice) +1.240.668.4117
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/17/21, 6:48 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Mark Andrews"
>>> <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of marka@isc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Send email to hackathon-request@ietf.org with a subject of
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>>> confirmation request.
>>>
>>>> On 17 Mar 2021, at 18:35, Hailey <merpitsmebug@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Please remove me from your mailing list. Please and thank
>>> you, wish you well!
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