Re: [hackathon] Coding a custom data link or network layer protocol

I’m Sean with the NOC. We don’t have a boilerplate other than what we
provide for the network. The IETF uses 2001:67c:370::/48 and
2001:67c:1230::/46 for IPv6 and 31.133.128.0/18 and 31.130.224.0/20 for
IPv4. We supply bandwidth for the conference space and venue hotel guest
rooms. IPv4 addresses are provided by DHCP and Stateless Auto-configuration
for IPv6 (SLAAC). If you could let us know what your protocol number is,
that would benefit if we see some oddness or issues on the network.

Sean and the NOC Team

Hi Sean, we are at internet draft level, hoow do we get a protocol number?

I think it will be difficult to respond seriously without further
details. At what layer will this protocol be? 2? 3? 7? Since you
mention custom _frames_, I assume it will be a completely new stack,
from layer 2 to the applications?

the protocol is at layer 2 and 3 (they are actually two protocols ie one on
layer2 another on layer 3) and yes the custom frames are generated at
layer2 and the protocol at layer 3 generates custom packets

IETF works on the TCP/IP family, so, if your protocol is not IP, no,
there is no document from IETF.

from layer3 upwards it implements and extends TCP so i think that qualifies
it to be IP, maybe correct me if am wrong on that one, thanks alot

If you want it to work across the Internet, does it mean it is a
layer-7 protocol, intended to work over IP and one of its usual
transports? If it is not IP (v4 or v6), there is no chance it will
work on the Internet. (Of course, you can always tunnel it over IP
between two end-poinst that you control.)

To summarize: details needed.
its not a layer 7 protocol, its layer 2 and layer3 while using extended TCP
over IP (v4 or v6)

And, likely, the answer is that you should read:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/505561.Internetworking_with_TCP_IP_Vol_1

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/194839.Internetworking_with_Tcp_Ip_Vol_III

     am still looking into the links thanks for sharing i do appreciate,
 though founf this otherone as well i dont know if its just the new verison
of it or i stick with the above two first
https://www.amazon.com/Internetworking-TCP-IP-One-6th-dp-013608530X/dp/013608530X/ref=dp_ob_title_bk
173usd

     Have you looked into WebTransport?

     Yes, I have looked into webTransport but the problem i had with it was
it doesn't give enough flexibility to implement logic over layer 2. because
the custom protocol at layer 2 has implementation with flow almost similar
to the logical link layer

On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 at 20:51, guest271314 <guest271314@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you looked into WebTransport?
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 5:21 AM 8218kelmo katerega micheal <
> 8218kelmo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi
>> am micheal and am working on some project where i have to create a custom
>> protocol with custom packets and custom frames
>> is there some boilerplate code or sample code orany guiding documents
>> from ietf that can enable me do that.
>>
>> i have so far managed to create the custom packets and custom frames but
>> how do it make them recognizable across the global internet
>> infrastructure and network?
>>
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