Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network

Juhamatti Kuusisaari <> Fri, 12 March 2021 10:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network
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On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 22:48, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <> wrote:
> Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization.
> For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking options, as described here,

Thanks for the draft link! So, NOC would then be a place to ask in
advance for networking services. I could imagine some reasonably
scaled cloud instance would also do fine, no need for actual HW in
that sense. It would be nice if the IETF hackathon organization had
some credits for those, through sponsors maybe?

> We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for future hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in mind?

I was thinking fairly simple TCP authentication option testing over
e.g. IPv6 telnet, or whatever may work best for possible attendees.
This does not need any fancy networking as such, only server-internal
connectivity - a cloud instance that can run KVM instances (enough
memory+cpus) would probably work fine for this.


> On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari" < on behalf of> wrote:
>     Hello,
>     Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote
>     hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case
>     the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image
>     would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes
>     could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available?
>     Thanks,
>     --
>      Juhamatti
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