Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
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Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
_______________________________________________My issue I have is not with the hackathon but with the legitimation of a new IETF protocol as a result of the hackathon.On 09/26/2021 1:54 PM Ondřej Surý < ondrej@isc.org> wrote:Again… since when do we police the hackathon topics? The only eligibility was and is to find people who actually want to do the work. We don’t even **require** people to do any work at all, although it’s kind of expected to participate if you come.Actually, most of the hackathon topics are not even announced on this list, so let’s stop punishing people coming with ideas that might be outside our comfort zone. Because honestly as DNS person I only marginally care or even understand 90% of the work done by the other hackathon groups.Ondřej--Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him)My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours.On 26. 9. 2021, at 17:00, Marc Petit-Huguenin < marc@petit-huguenin.org> wrote:Maybe a light criteria for project suitability for an IETF Hackathon would be that it somehow fulfills that part of the IETF mission statement: "Making the Internet work better".On 9/26/21 7:46 AM, Andrew Alston wrote:While I agree that anyone should be free to work on anything – and I support that fully – I will also say that this type of thing scares me – badly. Not because of the price of failure – if the hackathon in this regard produces nothing that ever sees the light of day – no harm no foul.The price of success however – is where I get nervous. Where does it go from here when we start working on topics like this that are incredibly state specific – on areas where there is very little consensus between countries etc and we succeed? Do we next see a hackathon for developing API’s to facilitate inter-state shutdowns of social media? I would hope we would have zero participants in such – but the simple point is – walking down this road opens a door – and it’s a door that I see fraught with real dangers.Maybe that’s just my paranoia speaking – but as I said – if people wanna work on something – let it be so – but I would hope that this isn’t lending legitimacy to the use of the hackathon to produce what could be some extremely dangerous things.AndrewDate: Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 17:36To: hackathon < hackathon@ietf.org>Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposalOndřej Surý writes:Since when we cared about this? This is hackathon - an event wherepeople gather, socialize and hack together for fun, not a workcamp.I'm not much of a fan of AOLing, but hear, hear! I appreciate all ofthe work Charles and others put into making it happen, but when itcomes down to it the individuals and teams working on any particularthing are not supervised.As long as the proponents are aware of what it might or might not meanin the context of IETF standardization, work on whatever you want.Welcome, fellow hackers, to our community._______________________________________________hackathon mailing listhttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon< https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon>Unsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe_______________________________________________hackathon mailing listhttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathonUnsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe--Marc Petit-HugueninEmail: marc@petit-huguenin.orgBlog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://marc.petit-huguenin.orgProfile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug_______________________________________________hackathon mailing listhttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathonUnsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe_______________________________________________hackathon mailing listhttps://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon" rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathonUnsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe
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- [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Eliot Lear
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Bob Hinden
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Stephen Farrell
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Thomas "Eric" Brunner-Williams
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal andihavemilestogobeforeisleep
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Eliot Lear
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Ondřej Surý
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Noah .
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Dave Lawrence
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Andrew Alston
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Ondřej Surý
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Sorin Faibish
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Botir 4life
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal patrickreneguerrero@sudomail.com
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Melinda Shore
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Charles Eckel (eckelcu)