Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
Botir 4life <flash541hunter@gmail.com> Sun, 26 September 2021 18:42 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
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Hi all, Can you please delete me from here Thanks in advance вс, 26 сент. 2021 г., 20:36 Sorin Faibish <sfaibish@comcast.net>et>: > My issue I have is not with the hackathon but with the legitimation of a > new IETF protocol as a result of the hackathon. > > On 09/26/2021 1:54 PM Ondřej Surý < ondrej@isc.org> wrote: > > > Again… since when do we police the hackathon topics? The only eligibility > was and is to find people who actually want to do the work. We don’t even > **require** people to do any work at all, although it’s kind of expected to > participate if you come. > > Actually, most of the hackathon topics are not even announced on this > list, so let’s stop punishing people coming with ideas that might be > outside our comfort zone. Because honestly as DNS person I only marginally > care or even understand 90% of the work done by the other hackathon groups. > > Ondřej > -- > Ondřej Surý — ISC (He/Him) > > My working hours and your working hours may be different. Please do not > feel obligated to reply outside your normal working hours. > > > On 26. 9. 2021, at 17:00, Marc Petit-Huguenin < marc@petit-huguenin.org> > wrote: > > Maybe a light criteria for project suitability for an IETF Hackathon would > be that it somehow fulfills that part of the IETF mission statement: > "Making the Internet work better". > > > On 9/26/21 7:46 AM, Andrew Alston wrote: > While I agree that anyone should be free to work on anything – and I > support that fully – I will also say that this type of thing scares me – > badly. Not because of the price of failure – if the hackathon in this > regard produces nothing that ever sees the light of day – no harm no foul. > The price of success however – is where I get nervous. Where does it go > from here when we start working on topics like this that are incredibly > state specific – on areas where there is very little consensus between > countries etc and we succeed? Do we next see a hackathon for developing > API’s to facilitate inter-state shutdowns of social media? I would hope we > would have zero participants in such – but the simple point is – walking > down this road opens a door – and it’s a door that I see fraught with real > dangers. > Maybe that’s just my paranoia speaking – but as I said – if people wanna > work on something – let it be so – but I would hope that this isn’t lending > legitimacy to the use of the hackathon to produce what could be some > extremely dangerous things. > Andrew > From: hackathon < hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Dave Lawrence > < tale@dd.org> > Date: Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 17:36 > To: hackathon < hackathon@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal > Ondřej Surý writes: > > Since when we cared about this? This is hackathon - an event where > people gather, socialize and hack together for fun, not a work > camp. > > I'm not much of a fan of AOLing, but hear, hear! I appreciate all of > the work Charles and others put into making it happen, but when it > comes down to it the individuals and teams working on any particular > thing are not supervised. > As long as the proponents are aware of what it might or might not mean > in the context of IETF standardization, work on whatever you want. > Welcome, fellow hackers, to our community. > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon< > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon> > Unsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > Unsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > > -- > Marc Petit-Huguenin > Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org > Blog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org > Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > Unsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe > > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > Unsubscribe: mailto: hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe > > _______________________________________________ > hackathon mailing list > hackathon@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hackathon > Unsubscribe: mailto:hackathon-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe >
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- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Bob Hinden
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Stephen Farrell
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Thomas "Eric" Brunner-Williams
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- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Eliot Lear
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Ondřej Surý
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Noah .
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Dave Lawrence
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Andrew Alston
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Benson Muite
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Ondřej Surý
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Sorin Faibish
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Botir 4life
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal patrickreneguerrero@sudomail.com
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Melinda Shore
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal Charles Eckel (eckelcu)