Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal

Botir 4life <flash541hunter@gmail.com> Sun, 26 September 2021 18:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
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Hi all,
Can you please delete me from here
Thanks in advance

вс, 26 сент. 2021 г., 20:36 Sorin Faibish <sfaibish@comcast.net>et>:

> My issue I have is not with the hackathon but with the legitimation of a
> new IETF protocol as a result of the hackathon.
>
> On 09/26/2021 1:54 PM Ondřej Surý < ondrej@isc.org> wrote:
>
>
> Again… since when do we police the hackathon topics? The only eligibility
> was and is to find people who actually want to do the work. We don’t even
> **require** people to do any work at all, although it’s kind of expected to
> participate if you come.
>
> Actually, most of the hackathon topics are not even announced on this
> list, so let’s stop punishing people coming with ideas that might be
> outside our comfort zone. Because honestly as DNS person I only marginally
> care or even understand 90% of the work done by the other hackathon groups.
>
> Ondřej
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> On 26. 9. 2021, at 17:00, Marc Petit-Huguenin < marc@petit-huguenin.org>
> wrote:
>
> Maybe a light criteria for project suitability for an IETF Hackathon would
> be that it somehow fulfills that part of the IETF mission statement:
> "Making the Internet work better".
>
>
> On 9/26/21 7:46 AM, Andrew Alston wrote:
> While I agree that anyone should be free to work on anything – and I
> support that fully – I will also say that this type of thing scares me –
> badly. Not because of the price of failure – if the hackathon in this
> regard produces nothing that ever sees the light of day – no harm no foul.
> The price of success however – is where I get nervous. Where does it go
> from here when we start working on topics like this that are incredibly
> state specific – on areas where there is very little consensus between
> countries etc and we succeed? Do we next see a hackathon for developing
> API’s to facilitate inter-state shutdowns of social media? I would hope we
> would have zero participants in such – but the simple point is – walking
> down this road opens a door – and it’s a door that I see fraught with real
> dangers.
> Maybe that’s just my paranoia speaking – but as I said – if people wanna
> work on something – let it be so – but I would hope that this isn’t lending
> legitimacy to the use of the hackathon to produce what could be some
> extremely dangerous things.
> Andrew
> From: hackathon < hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Dave Lawrence
> < tale@dd.org>
> Date: Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 17:36
> To: hackathon < hackathon@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
> Ondřej Surý writes:
>
> Since when we cared about this? This is hackathon - an event where
> people gather, socialize and hack together for fun, not a work
> camp.
>
> I'm not much of a fan of AOLing, but hear, hear! I appreciate all of
> the work Charles and others put into making it happen, but when it
> comes down to it the individuals and teams working on any particular
> thing are not supervised.
> As long as the proponents are aware of what it might or might not mean
> in the context of IETF standardization, work on whatever you want.
> Welcome, fellow hackers, to our community.
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