Re: [hackathon] [abnf-discuss] Virtual formal languages meeting

Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com> Mon, 27 April 2020 16:24 UTC

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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:17:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ned Freed <ned.freed@mrochek.com>
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Subject: Re: [hackathon] [abnf-discuss] Virtual formal languages meeting
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> OK — let’s go with Webex. I’ll circulate the details, along with the agenda, closer to the meeting.

Then there's a good chance I won't be able to participate.

My issues with Webex are practical rather than ethical. It seems that the
latest version(*) doesn't handle permissions setup properly on some Mac OS X
versions. I'll try (again) to fix it, but as I've mentioned elsehwere, my
tolerance for crapware is very limited right now.

				Ned

(*) The latest version is an improvement in at least one respect: The previous
one silently installed some kind of app to be run at login time. Not good.



> Thanks,

> Stephen

> > On 27 Apr 2020, at 16:56, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> >
> > The reason for my short message is that I do NOT want to force my ethical considerations on anybody else.  If Zoom is convenient for you, please go ahead with that; I just won't be there.
> >
> > But since I have been asked twice, let me just mention that the majority of the IETF meetings still happen over Webex; not exactly a perfect service, but widely understood by IETF participants.  Sorry about your background images, if that is chosen.
> >
> > Grüße, Carsten
> >
> >
> >> On 2020-04-27, at 17:50, Stephen McQuistin <Stephen.McQuistin@glasgow.ac.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> Any in particular? Happy to switch.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >>> On 27 Apr 2020, at 16:47, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-04-27, at 17:46, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Presumably that's a comment on their service.  Which alternative would you find acceptable?
> >>>
> >>> Any ethical one.
> >>>
> >>> Grüße, Carsten
> >>>
> >>
> >

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