Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal

Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> Sun, 26 September 2021 15:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
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Maybe a light criteria for project suitability for an IETF Hackathon would be that it somehow fulfills that part of the IETF mission statement: "Making the Internet work better".

On 9/26/21 7:46 AM, Andrew Alston wrote:
> While I agree that anyone should be free to work on anything – and I support that fully – I will also say that this type of thing scares me – badly.  Not because of the price of failure – if the hackathon in this regard produces nothing that ever sees the light of day – no harm no foul.
> 
> The price of success however – is where I get nervous.  Where does it go from here when we start working on topics like this that are incredibly state specific – on areas where there is very little consensus between countries etc and we succeed?  Do we next see a hackathon for developing API’s to facilitate inter-state shutdowns of social media?  I would hope we would have zero participants in such – but the simple point is – walking down this road opens a door – and it’s a door that I see fraught with real dangers.
> 
> Maybe that’s just my paranoia speaking – but as I said – if people wanna work on something – let it be so – but I would hope that this isn’t lending legitimacy to the use of the hackathon to produce what could be some extremely dangerous things.
> 
> Andrew
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> From: hackathon <hackathon-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Dave Lawrence <tale@dd.org>
> Date: Sunday, 26 September 2021 at 17:36
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> Subject: Re: [hackathon] One Tax API Hackathon proposal
> Ondřej Surý writes:
>> Since when we cared about this? This is hackathon - an event where
>> people gather, socialize and hack together for fun, not a work
>> camp.
> 
> I'm not much of a fan of AOLing, but hear, hear! I appreciate all of
> the work Charles and others put into making it happen, but when it
> comes down to it the individuals and teams working on any particular
> thing are not supervised.
> 
> As long as the proponents are aware of what it might or might not mean
> in the context of IETF standardization, work on whatever you want.
> Welcome, fellow hackers, to our community.
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