Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network

Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplus.org> Fri, 12 March 2021 10:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network
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Hi,

Many cloud companies are usually happy to sponsor hackathons with cloud 
resources if asked appropriately and if these are efficiently used. 
Possibly a guide for Champions could be useful.

Regards,
Benson

On 3/12/21 1:36 PM, Juhamatti Kuusisaari wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> It is nice though that the draft has no requirement for champions to
> provide these resources. This way anyone can be the champion.
> 
> BR,
> --
>   Juhamatti
> 
> On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 23:21, Charles Eckel (eckelcu) <eckelcu@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pierre,
>>
>> Thanks, and yes, ultimately it is up to the project champions and the rest of the team to determine how they want to work and what tools they want to use. A goal of the hackathon is to provide an environment and tools that can be helpful.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Charles
>>
>> On 3/11/21, 12:52 PM, "Pierre Francois" <pierre.francois@insa-lyon.fr> wrote:
>>
>>      Charles,
>>
>>      these are great initiatives, but shouldn't we simply rely on the champions to provide the env for interop testing?
>>
>>      Cheers,
>>
>>      Pierre.
>>
>>      ----- Mail original -----
>>      > De: "Charles Eckel (eckelcu)" <eckelcu=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>      > À: "Juhamatti Kuusisaari" <juhamatk@gmail.com>om>, hackathon@ietf.org
>>      > Envoyé: Jeudi 11 Mars 2021 21:47:50
>>      > Objet: Re: [hackathon] Interop testing within hackathon network
>>
>>      > Hi Juhamatti,
>>      >
>>      > Shared compute resources were made available at some previous in person
>>      > hackathons, but that practice stoped due to low utilization.
>>      > For recent online only hackathons, we have provided remote networking options,
>>      > as described here,
>>      > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eckel-shmoo-ietf-hackathon-03#section-6.8
>>      >
>>      > We ran into some complications that resulted in these services not being
>>      > available for IETF 110, but we intend to offer something comparable for future
>>      > hackathons. If so, would this work for the interop testing you have in mind?
>>      >
>>      > Cheers,
>>      > Charles
>>      >
>>      >On 3/11/21, 8:06 AM, "hackathon on behalf of Juhamatti Kuusisaari"
>>      ><hackathon-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of juhamatk@gmail.com> wrote:
>>      >
>>      >    Hello,
>>      >
>>      >    Just wondering how people have been doing interop testing in remote
>>      >    hackathons so far, what would be the best practices? For my use case
>>      >    the simplest thing would be to have a common server where a KVM image
>>      >    would be instantiated and other KVM instances or even host processes
>>      >    could connect to it over kernel switch. Anything like this available?
>>      >
>>      >    Thanks,
>>      >    --
>>      >     Juhamatti
>>      >
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