Re: [HAM-AG] Fourth?

"Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net> Wed, 18 December 2019 21:37 UTC

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From: "Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang" <zzhang@juniper.net>
To: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>, "ham-ag@ietf.org" <ham-ag@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [HAM-AG] Fourth?
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Well I am new - just got my US Tech license in the fall.

It seems that in the Internet era, HAM is becoming a hobby only for those geeks who are really in to the "technology" aspects of amateur radio, or a last resort communication tool for the survivalists - less and less people are chatting over the air.

I only have a handhold VHF/UHF radio now so I only use a local repeater in my town for the weekly net, in which people just check in and then quickly leave. Even if I get a higher powered unit with an outdoor antenna to go farther or get an Extra license so that I could do more, I am not sure if it'll make a difference - I and other participants far/near would most likely belong to one of the above two groups.

Jeffrey

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From: HAM-AG <ham-ag-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Robert Sparks
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 4:21 PM
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Subject: [HAM-AG] Fourth?

Was kind of hoping we'd see some new folks...

RjS - AE5LL

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