Re: [HASMAT] moving forward

Peter Saint-Andre <> Wed, 01 September 2010 22:38 UTC

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On 8/31/10 2:42 PM, Brandon Sterne wrote:
> On 08/20/2010 11:08 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Following up on the successful BoF we held in Maastricht, I'd like to
>> keep us moving toward formation of a working group. Here are some open
>> tasks:
> Thanks, Peter, for keeping the ball rolling here.
>> 2. Charter. We had some feedback at the BoF about charter revisions,
>> especially focusing on the three drafts under immediate consideration
>> and removing the text about developing a long-term framework for web
>> security.
> Not being present at the BoF, I missed the discussion about removing the
> creation of a long-term security framework. 

A recording can be found here:

> If the group focuses on
> standardizing a small set of security mechanisms won't it be
> contributing to the "sprinkling" problem in the first part of the
> Objectives and Scope section?

Sort of. :)

As I recall, the objection was that we were making big promises and not
delivering, so either don't make big promises or else deliver mainly on
the big promises (but that's a large task and one that's not yet well
defined, thus perhaps leading the IESG to worry about scope creep).

>> 3. Name. Some people have said that "HASMAT" isn't very descriptive of
>> the subject matter, and that we might want something like "WEBSEC". As
>> long as folks don't think "WEBSEC" means that we'd be working on
>> everything under the sun related to the security of the web, I'd be fine
>> with a name like that. Other suggestions are welcome.
> Personally, I do think WEBAPPSEC is the right name.  Someone pointed out
> that is registered already, but that space is occupied by
> the Web Application Security Consortium who generally go by the acronym
> WASC.  Other than the domain issue, is this still a problem?

The Secretariat strongly prefers (close to mandates) acronyms that are
at most 8 characters. Database and other tooling issues ensure if we try
to use longer acronyms.


Peter Saint-Andre