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Re: [HASMAT] HSTS Threat prevalence

"Steingruebl, Andy" <asteingruebl@paypal-inc.com> Fri, 06 August 2010 22:22 UTC

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From: "Steingruebl, Andy" <asteingruebl@paypal-inc.com>
To: Devdatta Akhawe <dev.akhawe@gmail.com>, Marsh Ray <marsh@extendedsubset.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 16:23:23 -0600
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Devdatta Akhawe [mailto:dev.akhawe@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 3:08 PM
> To: Marsh Ray
> Cc: Steingruebl, Andy; IETF HASMAT list
> Subject: Re: [HASMAT] HSTS Threat prevalence
> 
> >>
> >> #1 would be good - for a reasonably representative sample (i.e. no
> >> stories ' I once sat in a cafe and ... ').
> >
> > How about "I've sat in cafes on multiple occasions with professional
> > pen-testers who told me that they employ these techniques quite
> > effectively on a regular basis"?
> 
> I am not sure if people targeted by professional pentesters are a
> "representative sample" of the general web user populace.

One easy approach we considered was thinking of likely places for these types of attacks, and seeing if w can detect them.  One easy example is airports. Look for wifi in an airport and you'll usually see quite a number of "free wifi" SSIDs, all with slightly carrying names.  Who knows which one is the real one.  I'd like to do a little experimenting on how many of those are rogue.

- Andy

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