Re: [hiaps] Other Built-in Demux Identifiers: The QUIC Approach
Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Thu, 13 November 2014 21:26 UTC
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From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [hiaps] Other Built-in Demux Identifiers: The QUIC Approach
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On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:28 AM, <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > > > FWIW, QUIC is proposing a unique identifier to demux connections bound to > the same IP address. > > > > “Given that NAT services can vary the WAN-visible source-port over the > lifetime of a connection (via unbinding, and rebinding), it is clear that > source-IP address and source-port are strictly insufficient to define a > connection. We overcome any such confusion by using a CID (Connection > IDentifier) which generally persists for the lifetime of the connection. A > CID is a pseudo randomly generated nonce [size is currently set at 64 bits], > that is expected to be universally unique. The CID is usually proposed in > the first UDP packet sent by a client to a server, and is present explicitly > or implicitly in all future packets that are exchanged for the lifetime of > the connection. It is the defining key for the connection. > > > > A server can use this CID as a key to identify the specific connection from > among many inbound connections sending UDP packets to a single server port. > The CID is also used by the server to resurrect the current session > encryption context for use with AEAD (Authenticated Encryption with > Associated Data). That context conceptually includes an encryption key, as > well as an authentication key. (Note: mutable portions of the packet, such > as source-port, etc., are not included in the Associated Data > authentication).” > > > > More information can be found here: > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RNHkx_VvKWyWg6Lr8SZ-saqsQx7rFV-ev2jRFUoVD34/mobilebasic?pli=1 > > > > Note CID is universally unique. > Yes but QUIC is designed as connection identifier and as such it does not seem to be appropriate to use it as host identifier. Regards, Behcet > > > Cheers, > > Med > > > _______________________________________________ > hiaps mailing list > hiaps@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiaps >
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