Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
"Mingwei Xu" <xmw@cernet.edu.cn> Fri, 01 July 2011 09:24 UTC
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Hi, Andrei, Tsinghua University has great interest on the hierarchical HIT research work. We have had some study on HIP and Name Based Socket (NBS). I think HIP has its advantages in ID/LOC schems. We want to do more work on mobility and security based on H-HIP. We will attend the HIPRG meetings continually and contribute to H-HIP drafts development. Mingwei Xu From: Andrei Gurtov <gurtov at hiit.fi> To: Wendong WANG <wdwang at bupt.edu.cn> Cc: hiprg <hiprg at irtf.org> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 09:32:24 +0300 In-reply-to: <201106301130508243153 at bupt.edu.cn> References: <201106281659415514469 at bupt.edu.cn> <201106301130508243153 at bupt.edu.cn> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)? Same question also applies to China mobile. Andrei Wendong WANG wrote: > > > Our team has > interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP. > We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility and security functions. > Wendong WANG > Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) > 2011-06-30 > > > >> -----éäåä----- >> åää: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov at hiit.fi] >> åéæé: 2011å6æ14æ 17:44 >> æää: Xu Xiaohu >> æé: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg at irtf.org; irtf-chair at irsg.org >> äé: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> >> Hei Xiaohu, >> >> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several >> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think >> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple >> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? >> >> Andrei >> >> Xu Xiaohu wrote: >> > Hi Tom and all, >> > >> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter >> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs >> > from the commercial deployment perspectives: >> > >> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator >> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a >> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management >> service >> > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators >> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business >> models, >> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home >> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS >> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of >> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in >> > the existing DNS infrastructure. >> > >> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For >> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned >> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the >> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, >> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable >> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat >> > identifiers. >> > >> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >> > >> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a >> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure. >> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. >> > >> > Best regards, >> > Xiaohu >> > >> > >> >> -----éäåä----- >> >> åää: hiprg-bounces at irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces at irtf.org] äè >> >> Henderson, Thomas R >> >> åéæé: 2011å6æ6æ 22:49 >> >> æää: hiprg at irtf.org >> >> æé: 'irtf-chair at irsg.org' >> >> äé: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >> >> >> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item >> > since >> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the >> > RG. >> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some >> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >> > relative to >> >> the WG. >> >> >> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and >> > for >> >> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, >> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can >> > we >> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >> >> >> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like >> > to see >> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the >> > meeting. >> >> - Tom
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- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Xu Xiaohu
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Wendong WANG
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion wdwang
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Sean Shen 沈烁
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Mingwei Xu
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
- Re: [hiprg] 回复:Re: HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov