[Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP
rgm at htt-consult.com (Robert Moskowitz) Wed, 08 April 2009 20:08 UTC
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Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:08:27 -0400
Subject: [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP
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Gyu Myoung Lee wrote: > Dear All, > > As we have discussed several times on object related work, it seems that > most of experts have some interesting points but we still have technically > alternative solutions. Thus, it will be more productive way to officially > work together on this topic as a RG item > Passover starts tonight. I have a marker down to get work with you on this project. I will be rather busy with Passover and my Son's wedding through Apr 21. I will have a bit of catch up at that time, but I WILL help here. Just want to say that when I envisioned HIP, I did not limit it to a single identity to a stack. This was a rather arbitrary constraint to help others understand what HIP could do. Any object can have a HIP identity, or a proxied identity. But there is much to do still today before the holiday starts. > First of all, in order to initiate this work as a RG item, I believe that we > sincerely need to work on a broadly scoped high-level informational > document. In addition, we also need to develop documents on detailed > solution spaces simultaneously. > > In this case, hip-object document will be a candidate for high level > informational document which contains basic concept, various technical > options and use cases, etc. I can take the responsibility for developing > this document and also would like to invite several experts for valuable > comments and inputs. > > Look forward to your reply. > > Best Regards, > > Gyu Myoung Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henderson, Thomas R [mailto:thomas.r.henderson at boeing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 4:25 PM > To: hipsec-rg at listserv.cybertrust.com > Cc: Gyu Myoung Lee; Samu Varjonen; Pascal.Urien at enst.fr; Robert Moskowitz; > Andrei Gurtov > Subject: future work on naming objects in HIP > > > Hi all, > Gyu Myoung Lee has requested the research group to consider whether to > adopt the HIP extensions for object to object communications as a RG > draft: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-hip-object-02 > > This draft has been presented twice at the RG meeting. Pascal Urien > also has presented work on HIP and RFID tags: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-urien-hip-tag-01 > > At the last meeting, after the presentation of object to object > communications, there were two comments at the mike: > - Robert Moskowitz commented that objects could be supported without > modifying HIP by treating objects as services > - Pascal Urien commented that privacy issues need to be considered in > any such solution > > As a RG, we have a lot of latitude in deciding on what to work on and > how to work on it, especially since this work area is not within the > charter of the HIP working group. So, I see a couple of options, should > the group decide to work on this topic: > > - we could pick up one or both of the existing drafts above, or pieces > of them, and work on them as RG documents, with the intention of putting > any such drafts through the IRTF document stream process: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-irtf-rfcs-03 > > - we could work on a more broadly scoped informational document > describing various options and tradeoffs of linking HIP identifiers with > other identifiers or other protocols that convey different notions of > identity. For instance, Samu Varjonen's draft on how HIP and SRP may be > combined could be seen as another example of this type of extension: > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-varjonen-hip-srp-00 > > Or, if there isn't a group of people who indicate interest in working on > such RG documents, the authors can continue to publish them as > individual submissions. > > So, at this point, I'd like to invite discussions about what the RG > would like to collectively do in this space, as well as invite any > technical discussion that may be needed for people to decide on this > point. > > - Tom > > >
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Tobias Heer
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Gyu Myoung Lee
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Andrei Gurtov
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Miika Komu
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Henderson, Thomas R
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Robert Moskowitz
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Gyu Myoung Lee
- [Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP Henderson, Thomas R