Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
Zhen Cao <zehn.cao@gmail.com> Tue, 28 June 2011 15:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion
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Hi Chairs, I would like to play this topic in HIPRG. This is inline with our interests. Regards, Zhen -China Mobile On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Andrei Gurtov <gurtov@hiit.fi> wrote: > > Hei Xiaohu, > > That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several > organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think > of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple > years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University? > > Andrei > > Xu Xiaohu wrote: >> Hi Tom and all, >> >> I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter >> item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs >> from the commercial deployment perspectives: >> >> First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator >> mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a >> hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management service >> systems could be operated by different countries and different operators >> with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business models, >> just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home >> address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS >> infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of >> the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in >> the existing DNS infrastructure. >> >> Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For >> instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned >> HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the >> hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary, >> ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable >> business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat >> identifiers. >> >> There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about >> hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows: >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02 >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04 >> >> By the way, we have implemented the RANGI >> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a >> hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure. >> Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and >> verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City. >> >> Best regards, >> Xiaohu >> >> >>> -----邮件原件----- >>> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表 >>> Henderson, Thomas R >>> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49 >>> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org >>> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org' >>> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion >>> >>> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item >> since >>> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the >> RG. >>> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some >>> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play >> relative to >>> the WG. >>> >>> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria: >>> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and >> for >>> HIP in particular? What are the expected outcomes and impact? >>> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise? For instance, >>> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country. Can >> we >>> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation? >>> >>> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like >> to see >>> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the >> meeting. >>> - Tom >>> _______________________________________________ >>> hiprg mailing list >>> hiprg@irtf.org >>> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> hiprg mailing list >> hiprg@irtf.org >> https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg > -- Best regards, Zhen
- [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Xu Xiaohu
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Wendong WANG
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion wdwang
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Sean Shen 沈烁
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Mingwei Xu
- Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion Zhen Cao
- Re: [hiprg] 回复:Re: HIPRG charter discussion Andrei Gurtov