[Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted
oleg.ponomarev at hiit.fi (Oleg Ponomarev) Tue, 07 April 2009 11:49 UTC
From: "oleg.ponomarev at hiit.fi"
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:49:14 +0300
Subject: [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted
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Hi! On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Henderson, Thomas R wrote: > The meeting minutes for our San Francisco meeting are posted: > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/09mar/minutes/HIPRG.txt > Please reply to the list if you would like to make corrections. Just some minor corrections: --- HIPRG.txt 2009-04-02 19:49:00.000000000 +0300 +++ HIPRG-oleg.txt 2009-04-07 14:42:49.000000000 +0300 @@ -60,13 +60,15 @@ (See slides) - Robert: There should be the address of the RVS in the DNS, not the address of the device. + - Oleg: I think HIP RR should be more flexible, but ok, if RVS is the device itself - Tim Shepard: Are all applications going through HIP? - Oleg Ponomarev: Destination HIT determines need for HIP. - Tim: Firefox is not a good example for a application that needs HIP. - Oleg: HIP may well be useful for long-lasting connections. - Tim: Legacy apps should not use HIP by default. Firefox will probably not be a legacy app for long. - - Oleg: I would like to see HIP in practice, not just in a lab. + - Oleg: It is just an example, I will change it next time. I would +like to make HIP usable to see HIP in practice, not only in a lab. - Tom: Will this be discussed in another meeting here in San Fransisco? - Oleg: Just breiefly with DNS ops people. - Tom: We should continue discussions this on the list. @@ -110,8 +112,13 @@ - Oleg: You need massive caching in the name resolver system. What would be the size of such cache? - Xiaohu: This is a general issue for map-and-encaps. - - Oleg: To my experience, even one host with GB connection can easily -overload such system. + - Oleg: What happens when hosts in the network get infected and start +to send SYN packets to random IP addresses at the max speed? To my +experience, even one such host with GigabitEthernet connection can +overload low-cost routers. What will be the performance of your mapping +servers? What if there are thousands of such hosts? + - Xiaohu: we did not think about it [try to recap the answer. Oleg] + - Tom: This seems to be HIP with hierarchical HITs? - Xiaohu: Yes. - Tom: So this is a tunelling mechanism for dealing with legacy hosts? -- Regards, Oleg.
- [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted Xu Xiaohu
- [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted Oleg Ponomarev
- [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted Xu Xiaohu
- [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted Oleg Ponomarev
- [Hipsec-rg] HIPRG meeting minutes posted Henderson, Thomas R