[Hipsec-rg] future work on naming objects in HIP

[heer at cs.rwth-aachen.de (Tobias Heer)]

Hi.

I fully agree with Andrei. I think an open conceptual draft will build  
more momentum since not only the authors are interested in it.  
Moreover, it might be more useful since it will probably be more  
general and less tailored for a certain solution. I would also be  
interested in a clear description of the requirements and challenges.  
Generally I agree that the topic is worth pursuing.

Regards,
Tobias




Am 21.04.2009 um 16:06 schrieb Andrei Gurtov:

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> I think the topic is interesting, and could be pursued in HIPRG.
> However, probably it would be better not to take any of existing  
> drafts
> as-is as RG item, but rather to create a new id on the object naming
> where all interested researchers could contribute. The draft would
> concentrate more on conceptual requirements and architecture rather  
> than
> specific modifications of HIP headers, etc. This way there is a  
> greater
> chance that there is going to be critical mass in the RG to support  
> the
> draft through several revisions (and several years, to be realistic)
> until publication as RFC. My concern is if we take some existing draft
> directly, probably there will be little interest in RG other than from
> draft authors to work on the document. What do you think?
>
> Andrei
>
> Henderson, Thomas R wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Gyu Myoung Lee [mailto:gmlee at icu.ac.kr]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 10:01 AM
>>> To: Henderson, Thomas R; hipsec-rg at listserv.cybertrust.com
>>> Cc: 'Samu Varjonen'; Pascal.Urien at enst.fr; 'Robert
>>> Moskowitz'; 'Andrei Gurtov'
>>> Subject: RE: future work on naming objects in HIP
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> As we have discussed several times on object related work, it
>>> seems that
>>> most of experts have some interesting points but we still
>>> have technically
>>> alternative solutions. Thus, it will be more productive way
>>> to officially
>>> work together on this topic as a RG item
>>>
>>> First of all, in order to initiate this work as a RG item, I
>>> believe that we
>>> sincerely need to work on a broadly scoped high-level informational
>>> document. In addition, we also need to develop documents on detailed
>>> solution spaces simultaneously.
>>>
>>> In this case, hip-object document will be a candidate for high level
>>> informational document which contains basic concept, various  
>>> technical
>>> options and use cases, etc. I can take the responsibility for
>>> developing
>>> this document and also would like to invite several experts
>>> for valuable
>>> comments and inputs.
>>>
>>
>> Pascal, Robert, Miika,
>>
>> You've all expressed some interest in pursuing this topic as a RG  
>> work
>> item.  Gyu Myoung Lee above suggested a possible concrete path  
>> forward.
>> Would you like to pursue the above with him, or other activities in
>> parallel?  Does anyone else want to express opinions about going  
>> forward
>> with this work?
>>
>> Tom
>
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