Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

Sean Shen 沈烁 <shenshuo@cnnic.cn> Thu, 30 June 2011 07:34 UTC

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I am interested in this topic and like to attend meetings and provide reviews.

 

Sean

 

From: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of wdwang
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Subject: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

 

Hei, Andrei

 

If H-HIP could be become a charter in HIPRG, I can commit to provide active feedback on the mailling list. Our team will very happy to do our contrbutions on H-HIP drafts and attend the HIPRG meeting at IETF.

 

Wendong WANG   

 

 

 

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wdwang

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发件人: Andrei Gurtov

发送时间: 2011-06-30 15:04:06

收件人: Wendong WANG

抄送: hiprg

主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

 

Can you commit to attend the HIPRG meetings at IETF for one-two years to

 contribute to h-hip draft development or at least provide active

feedback on the mailing list (e.g. at least one email/week)?

Same question also applies to China mobile.

Andrei

 

 

Wendong WANG wrote:

> 

>  

> Our team has

> interesting on the hierarchical HIT research work. we have already implemented a demo of ID-Locator mapping services based on HIP. 

> We also hope to do more works on it for the future Internet mobility and security functions.

> Wendong WANG

> Beijing Universty of Posts and Telecommunications (BUPT) 

> 2011-06-30

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>  

>  

>> -----邮件原件-----

>> 发件人: Andrei Gurtov [mailto:gurtov@hiit.fi]

>> 发送时间: 2011年6月14日 17:44

>> 收件人: Xu Xiaohu

>> 抄送: 'Henderson, Thomas R'; hiprg@irtf.org; irtf-chair@irsg.org

>> 主题: Re: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

>> 

>> 

>> Hei Xiaohu,

>> 

>> That's an interesting topic, but there should be interest of several

>> organizations to discuss and develop it jointly at HIPRG. Can you think

>> of others who would be willing to commit to this topic for a couple

>> years? Maybe China mobile, Tsinghua University?

>> 

>> Andrei

>> 

>> Xu Xiaohu wrote:

>> > Hi Tom and all,

>> >

>> > I propose to consider taking the hierarchical HIT research as a new charter

>> > item. IMHO, there are at least two major benefits of using hierarchical HITs

>> > from the commercial deployment perspectives:

>> >

>> > First, the ID/HIT registration management service and the ID-to-Locator

>> > mapping service corresponding to the hierarchical HITs could be run in a

>> > hierarchical manner. In other words, such global mobility management

>> service

>> > systems could be operated by different countries and different operators

>> > with clear administrative domain boundaries and reasonable business

>> models,

>> > just like the telephone number space in the telephone network and the home

>> > address space in the mobile IP network. In addition, the existing DNS

>> > infrastructure doesn't need to be changed largely. That's to say, HITs of

>> > the HIP hosts could be stored directly as their corresponding AAAA RRs in

>> > the existing DNS infrastructure.

>> >

>> > Second, the usage of hierarchical HITs will ease the transition for HIP. For

>> > instance, legacy IPv6 hosts could access mobile HIP hosts via provider-owned

>> > HIP proxy devices (just as home agents in the mobile IP network) since the

>> > hierarchical HITs could be routable in the Internet. On the contrary,

>> > ORCHIDs are not routable in the Internet since there is no reasonable

>> > business motivation for operators to deploy HIP proxy devices for such flat

>> > identifiers.

>> >

>> > There has been some proposals and presentations discussing about

>> > hierarchical HITs in HIPRG before as follows:

>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-hip-hierarchical-02

>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kuptsov-hhit-02

>> > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04

>> >

>> > By the way, we have implemented the RANGI

>> > (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-rangi-04) prototype which uses a

>> > hierarchical and cryptographic host IDs with delegation-oriented structure.

>> > Hope we could have a chance to show the implementation details and

>> > verification results at the forthcoming IETF meeting in Quebec City.

>> >

>> > Best regards,

>> > Xiaohu

>> >

>> >

>> >> -----邮件原件-----

>> >> 发件人: hiprg-bounces@irtf.org [mailto:hiprg-bounces@irtf.org] 代表

>> >> Henderson, Thomas R

>> >> 发送时间: 2011年6月6日 22:49

>> >> 收件人: hiprg@irtf.org

>> >> 抄送: 'irtf-chair@irsg.org'

>> >> 主题: [hiprg] HIPRG charter discussion

>> >>

>> >> With the completion of the experiment report (our main RG charter item

>> > since

>> >> the RG's inception), I would like to ask about future directions of the

>> > RG.

>> >> Outside of completing our current RG drafts, we need to try to define some

>> >> new collaborative work items and define what role the RG will play

>> > relative to

>> >> the WG.

>> >>

>> >> These work items should ideally satisfy the following criteria:

>> >> - is the research area clear and relevant for the Internet community and

>> > for

>> >> HIP in particular?  What are the expected outcomes and impact?

>> >> - will the RG foster work that would not be done otherwise?  For instance,

>> >> participation drawn from more than a single institution or country.  Can

>> > we

>> >> try to identify individuals for this anticipated participation?

>> >>

>> >> We can have some discussion of this at the next meeting but I would like

>> > to see

>> >> whether we can start identifying some topics on the list before the

>> > meeting.

>> >> - Tom

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