Re: [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00
Miika Komu <miika.komu@hiit.fi> Tue, 02 March 2010 14:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00
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On 03/02/2010 04:27 AM, shen.jiong@zte.com.cn wrote: Hi, are you familiar with the latest HIP overlay drafts? At least the first comment... #1. Before one host wants to communicate with another host, it MUST initiate a HIP 4-way handshake, and then initiate a TCP handshake and other transport or application connections. It leads to a long connection delay and downgrades the user experience. ...does not the take into count the following: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-hiccups-01 Please see also: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-reload-instance http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-via Regarding to the third comment, I thing certificates in SIM or smart cards would do the trick: #3. End-to-End communication model depends on the PKI infrastructure, but existing widely deployed telecomm network employs pre-shared key security mechanism rather than PKI. So if HIP can support pre-shared key authentication, the existing infrastructure can be reused. HIP keys can be also disseminated via DNS as described in RFC5205. The RVS mechanism in RFC5204 with double jump support should cover the following fourth comment: #4. Since HIP mobility mechanism does not use any anchor point, if a HIP host's IP address changed, it must sends an update message to its connected peer. Such design makes the mobility possible even if infrastructure does not involved, but it also causes two weaknesses: 1)If the connection peer resides in a different continent or if the HIP host has too many connections, the update may be time-consuming and leads to very high handover delay. 2)If two hosts of one connection change their IP addresses simultaneously, the update could never be successful. > Dear all, > > A new Internet Draft entitled "HIP Service Overlay Study" has been > submitted. It can be accessed at: > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00.txt > > (filename: draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00) > It is a HIP service overlay study document, it presents several > disadvantages of current HIP protocol and then takes a brief > introduction of two existing alternative solutions. Finally, we propose > a HIP service overlay architecture. > Your comments on the proposed mechanism would be highly appreciated. In > addition, I would be glad to make a small presentation and discuss it in > the upcoming IETF 77 meeting. > > Regards, > Jiong Shen > > > > *IETF I-D Submission Tool <idsubmission@ietf.org>* > > 2010-03-01 17:55 > > > 收件人 > shen.jiong@zte.com.cn > 抄送 > wang.jun17@zte.com.cn > 主题 > New Version Notification for draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00 > > > > > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-00.txt has been > successfuly submitted by Jiong Shen and posted to the IETF repository. > > Filename: draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay > Revision: 00 > Title: HIP Service Overlay Study > Creation_date: 2010-03-01 > WG ID: Independent Submission > Number_of_pages: 10 > > Abstract: > This draft is a HIP service overlay study document, it presents > several disadvantages of current HIP protocol and then takes a brief > introduction of two existing alternative solutions. Finally, the > authors propose a HIP service overlay architecture. > > > > The IETF Secretariat. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > ZTE Information Security Notice: The information contained in this mail is solely property of the sender's organization. This mail communication is confidential. Recipients named above are obligated to maintain secrecy and are not permitted to disclose the contents of this communication to others. > This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the originator of the message. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. > This message has been scanned for viruses and Spam by ZTE Anti-Spam system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > hiprg mailing list > hiprg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/hiprg
- [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-overlay-… shen.jiong
- Re: [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-over… Miika Komu
- Re: [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-over… Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [hiprg] New ID: draft-wang-hiprg-service-over… shen.jiong