Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04.txt

Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com> Fri, 02 October 2015 10:15 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] I-D Action: draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04.txt
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Hi Samu,

thanks for revising the draft. There are still a few things that need to
be fixed before I can request its publication. From the output of the
nits tool:

https://www.ietf.org/tools/idnits?url=https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04.txt

>   -- The abstract seems to indicate that this document obsoletes RFC6253, but
>      the header doesn't have an 'Obsoletes:' line to match this.

You need to add an Obsoletes: header to the header part at the beginning
of the draft. Additionally, you also need to add an Updates header as
follows:

  Obsoletes: 6253
  Updates: 7401

Note that the original RFC updated RFC 5201 and, thus, had an Updates
header:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6253

>   == The document seems to contain a disclaimer for pre-RFC5378 work, but was
>      first submitted on or after 10 November 2008.  The disclaimer is usually
>      necessary only for documents that revise or obsolete older RFCs, and that
>      take significant amounts of text from those RFCs.  If you can contact all
>      authors of the source material and they are willing to grant the BCP78
>      rights to the IETF Trust, you can and should remove the disclaimer. 
>      Otherwise, the disclaimer is needed and you can ignore this comment. 
>      (See the Legal Provisions document at
>      http://trustee.ietf.org/license-info for more information.)

You are the same authors as in the original RFC. Do you both agree to
remove the disclaimer?

>  == Unused Reference: 'RFC4843' is defined on line 349, but no explicit
>      reference was found in the text

Does this reference need to be removed or used somewhere in the text?

>   ** Downref: Normative reference to an Experimental RFC: RFC 2693

RFC 6232bis is intended to be a Proposed Standard. Can we reference a
Standards Track RFC instead of this one? Otherwise, we will need to talk
with our AD so make sure it is OK to normatively reference an
Experimental RFC.

>   ** Obsolete normative reference: RFC 4843 (Obsoleted by RFC 7343)
>   ** Obsolete normative reference: RFC 5996 (Obsoleted by RFC 7296)

Could you please update the two references above?

>   ** Downref: Normative reference to an Experimental RFC: RFC 6253

This downref is obviously OK... but what about making it an
Informational reference instead?

Could you please revise the draft addressing all the comments above?

Thanks,

Gonzalo


On 22/09/2015 1:58 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>  This draft is a work item of the Host Identity Protocol Working Group of the IETF.
> 
>         Title           : Host Identity Protocol Certificates
>         Authors         : Tobias Heer
>                           Samu Varjonen
> 	Filename        : draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04.txt
> 	Pages           : 11
> 	Date            : 2015-09-22
> 
> Abstract:
>    The Certificate (CERT) parameter is a container for digital
>    certificates.  It is used for carrying these certificates in Host
>    Identity Protocol (HIP) control packets.  This document specifies the
>    certificate parameter and the error signaling in case of a failed
>    verification.  Additionally, this document specifies the
>    representations of Host Identity Tags in X.509 version 3 (v3) and
>    Simple Public Key Infrastructure (SPKI) certificates.
> 
>    The concrete use cases of certificates, including how certificates
>    are obtained, requested, and which actions are taken upon successful
>    or failed verification, are specific to the scenario in which the
>    certificates are used.  Hence, the definition of these scenario-
>    specific aspects is left to the documents that use the CERT
>    parameter.
> 
>    This document extends RFC7401 and obsoletes RFC6253.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis/
> 
> There's also a htmlized version available at:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04
> 
> A diff from the previous version is available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-rfc6253-bis-04
> 
> 
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