Re: [Hipsec] Status of HIP DEX

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Wed, 20 January 2016 15:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Status of HIP DEX
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I just posted ver 05.  I only reved the dates.  I am seriously 
considering adding Curve25519 as it 'works' much better in constrained 
systems than p256.  But I would need a published reference for it.

On 01/20/2016 08:59 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> Although draft-moskowitz-hip-dex-04 expired yesterday, I have been 
> active with it as follows:
>
> IEEE 802.15.9 references both HIP BEX and DEX.  This Recommended 
> Standard will be starting IEEE Sponsor Ballot recirculation #2 Jan 21 
> on a 10 day voting cycle.  We anticipate our one NO voter to switch to 
> YES (as he contributed to the editorial changes and said they 
> satisfied his concerns) and no new NO votes.  That is it is done 
> balloting.  It is tightly timed, but this will get it on RevCom Feb 2 
> to be approved for publication.  But,,,
>
> No Internet Drafts in an IEEE document.  So HIP DEX would hold up the 
> publication.
>
> For those not familiar with DEX, it is a reduction on BEXv2 and the 
> text is closely aligned, thanks to Rene's editing.
>
> I plan on reving DEX-04 as DEX-05 as soon as possible.  Like this week 
> still.  The question is where does this go to be moved forward.  ISE 
> submission is not good, as then it could only be Informational or 
> Experimental.  So either this workgroup does a last call and moves it 
> forward, or I go the AD submission route. I have been discussing this 
> with Stephen Farrell as Security AD, and regardless, he would be 
> reviewing it.  The question is what route to IESG.  This wg, this wg 
> AD, or security AD?
>
> Please help me out here.
>
> HIP DEX is also referenced in:
>
> draft-ohba-6lo-mle-hip-dex-01.txt
>
> as used by Zigbee and a further reduction of DEX (because even it was 
> too many bytes over the air) is in a product I cannot name.
>
> I look forward to your assistance.
>
> On a personal note:
>
> I am being funded by Huawei to work on DOTS/I2NSF/MILE/SACM.  Look for 
> a number of IDs coming from me (or my joining others) in those areas.  
> Look for HIP being referenced in a place or two.  Along with SSE.  I 
> plan on attending the next IETF, but will not be arriving until Mon 
> noon.  My youngest son is engaged and the wedding is the week prior 
> and thus I cannot split for IETF until Sunday.
>
> I am working on another contract that I soon hope to share with you here.
>
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