Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for input
Petri Jokela <petri.jokela@nomadiclab.com> Wed, 29 July 2009 09:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for input
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On 20.7.2009, at 12.33, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Folks, > > 1) We have the following milestone: > > "Specify a framework to build HIP-based overlays. This framework will ... > The resulting document is the draft below. We would like to ask the WG > if it is OK to split our current milestone in two so that they cover > the > high-level framework and the definition in separate documents. > > http://tools.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-keranen-hip-reload-instance-00.txt > > Additionally, we would like to ask the WG if we should take the draft > above as the WG item associated to the milestone for the definition. > The proposal sounds reasonable, taking also into account the discussion that has been going on in another thread. > 2) We have the following milestone: ... > We still do not have a WG item for it but the following draft has been > around for some time. We would like to ask the WG if we should adopt > the > following draft as the WG item for this milestone. > > http://tools.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nikander-hip- > hiccups-02.txt > For me, this sounds good. As in the previous case, taking into account also the ongoing discussion on the related thread. > 3) In order to be able to support the functionality provided by > RELOAD, > HIP needs to support multi-hop routing. Instead of specifying it in > the > HIP BONE draft, having a separate draft seem to make more sense given > that this functionality has a more general applicability than > overlays. > We would like to ask the WG if we should spin off a new milestone from > our original milestone for overlays that covers multihop routing in > HIP. > > The following draft takes a stab at specifying multihop routing in > HIP. > We would like to ask the WG if we should adopt it as a WG item for the > milestone above (assuming we decide to create the milestone). > > http://tools.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-camarillo-hip-via-00.txt This sounds ok. > 4) We have the following milestone: > > "Specify how to generate ORCHIDs from other node identifiers > including both cryptographic ones (leading to cryptographic > delegation) and non-cryptographic ones (e.g., identifiers defined by a > peer protocol)." > > When we created that milestone, we expected to have a generic > mechanism > to transform node IDs into ORCHIDs. However, at this point, it seems > that such transformation will be done in different ways depending on > the > peer protocol used in a particular overlay. For example, the instance > specification for RELOAD draft defines such transformation for RELOAD > peer identifiers. The fact that nobody has submitted a draft for that > milestone seems to confirm the previous impression. We would like to > ask > the WG if we should remove that milestone from our charter. While there is no activity, it seems reasonable to remove it now. /petri > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > HIP co-chair > > _______________________________________________ > Hipsec mailing list > Hipsec@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec > > -- Petri Jokela Tel: +358 9 299 2413 Research scientist Fax: +358 9 299 3535 NomadicLab, Ericsson Research Mobile: +358 44 299 2413 Oy L M Ericsson Ab email: petri.jokela@ericsson.com
- [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for inp… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Gonzalo Camarillo
- [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Ari Keranen
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft wangjun
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Ari Keranen
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Ari Keranen
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft wang.jun17
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Henderson, Thomas R
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Petri Jokela
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Ari Keranen
- Re: [Hipsec] Comments on the HIP-BONE draft Ari Keranen
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Tobias Heer
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Miika Komu
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Varjonen Samu
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Miika Komu
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Jan Melen
- Re: [Hipsec] Overlay work: status and request for… Varjonen Samu