Re: [Hipsec] draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal-00

Ari Keranen <ari.keranen@nomadiclab.com> Tue, 09 March 2010 15:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal-00
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Hi Miika,

Yes, this mode has its benefits over the STUN based methods and could be 
a good candidate for the standards track too.


Cheers,
Ari

Miika Komu wrote:
> On 03/04/2010 12:27 PM, Ari Keranen wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> based on our implementation experimentation, I would say that this is a 
> better for the experimental NAT traversal work to proceed towards 
> standards track.
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We wrote an extension to the HIP NAT traversal draft that uses the ICE
>> methodology with HIP messages and an ESP relay for the NAT traversal
>> procedures:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal-00.txt
>>
>> This draft addresses the issue that one may not be willing to integrate
>> a full ICE implementation with HIP but rather re-use the HIP messages
>> and state machines for the same purpose.
>>
>> Comments are welcome!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: New Version Notification for
>> draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal-00
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal-00.txt has
>> been successfuly submitted by Ari Keranen and posted to the IETF
>> repository.
>>
>> Filename: draft-keranen-hip-native-nat-traversal
>> Revision: 00
>> Title: Native NAT Traversal Mode for the Host Identity Protocol
>> Creation_date: 2010-03-01
>> WG ID: Independent Submission
>> Number_of_pages: 15
>>
>> Abstract:
>> This document specifies a new Network Address Translator (NAT)
>> traversal mode for the Host Identity Protocol (HIP). The new mode is
>> based on the Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE) methodology
>> and UDP encapsulation of data and signaling traffic. The main
>> difference from the previously specified modes is the use of HIP
>> messages for all NAT traversal procedures.
>>